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irish66   Ireland
Posted: Oct-09-08, 09:07 PM (EST)
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Hi, I'm not sure if my brother has type two or type
1. But as he's on tablets, and as a google seems to suggest that people with type 2 diabetes don't have to take shots, that would suggest he is a type 2.
my questions are basically about food.
(1)when looking at labels, what is more important, the fat amount of fat, the amount of carbs or the amount of sugar. I would have thought the amount of sugar, but looking at a thread on yogurts, which from the small bit I've read would seem to suggest that carbs is just as important.
to put it another way, what kind of labelling should i be looking at
for instance you might get a yogurt that say o% fat, but 39 percent carbs of which sugars 16%/
(2)I've been getting him soya milk (i should say, i don't live in the same house, but do the shopping for him and the parents)or is ordinary milk okay.

(3)Is candrel sugar substitute okay.
is it okay for him to be drinking 6 cans of bass in a week. Well he doesn't always drink 6, as there are often 1 or two cans left when i buy the next six.

(4) before he was diagnosed, an uncle of mine had been diagnosed with it. My mother was of the opinion it was because he had been drinking too much coke. But at the same time, he has a brother who is a diabetec, but I can't say which of them had it first.
My own brother used to drink a lot of coke. but i guess within the last 6 months. I'm not really sure how long, to tell you the truth, it's been nothing but 7 up frees and tins of bass ale.
So is there a link between coke and diabetes?

a question for myself. sometimes when eating out, the only sugar free option would be a diet coke.
Which is the best for you, ordinary sprite, or 7 up, or a diet coke.
Well that's all for now.
Thanks for reading this. Well i hope someone has.

M





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1. RE: my brother
DRBain   United States
Posted: Oct-09-08, 11:05 PM (EST)
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This message was edited on Oct-09-08 at 11:11 PM (EST)
 

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Hi, I'm not sure if my brother has type two or type
1. But as he's on tablets, and as a google seems to suggest that people with type 2 diabetes don't have to take shots, that would suggest he is a type 2.
my questions are basically about food.
(1)when looking at labels, what is more important, the fat amount of fat, the amount of carbs or the amount of sugar. I would have thought the amount of sugar, but looking at a thread on yogurts, which from the small bit I've read would seem to suggest that carbs is just as important.
to put it another way, what kind of labelling should i be looking at
for instance you might get a yogurt that say o% fat, but 39 percent carbs of which sugars 16%/
(2)I've been getting him soya milk (i should say, i don't live in the same house, but do the shopping for him and the parents)or is ordinary milk okay.

(3)Is candrel sugar substitute okay.
is it okay for him to be drinking 6 cans of bass in a week. Well he doesn't always drink 6, as there are often 1 or two cans left when i buy the next six.

(4) before he was diagnosed, an uncle of mine had been diagnosed with it. My mother was of the opinion it was because he had been drinking too much coke. But at the same time, he has a brother who is a diabetec, but I can't say which of them had it first.
My own brother used to drink a lot of coke. but i guess within the last 6 months. I'm not really sure how long, to tell you the truth, it's been nothing but 7 up frees and tins of bass ale.
So is there a link between coke and diabetes?

a question for myself. sometimes when eating out, the only sugar free option would be a diet coke.
Which is the best for you, ordinary sprite, or 7 up, or a diet coke.
Well that's all for now.
Thanks for reading this. Well i hope someone has.

M

First, the lines between type 1 and type 2 are blurring, in that there are some adults that have gotten type 1 diabetes, which used to be called juvenile diabetes. And some children that get type 2, which used to be called adult onset diabetes. Some type 2 diabetics can control with diet and exercise, some with oral meds some with shots and some still that use all methods. I for instance take oral meds plus a 24 hour insulin called Lantus. I also take a shot of a protein called Byetta, taken just before breakfast and dinner, that reduces my appetite, glucose introduced by my liver and the amount of carbs eaten at during the meal that get converted into glucose.

When looking at labels the amount of carbs is the most important thing to look at. Sugar is just another carb. So look for the total carbs which sugar is a part.

Fat is the second important number to control because a lot of people that are diabetic also have high colesterol.

Soy milk is ok, personally I still like the real Moo juice. About candrel sugar substitute, I have never heard of it, are there carbs in it? The major key to diabetic control is controlling blood glucose levels this is done by restricting the amount of carbs in his diet and exercise.

As with food choices the lower the carbs in the things he drinks the lower his blood glucose levels will be.

I was taught the carb counting method for control. I can't say exactly how I do that because I am not a doctor.

Go with him the next time he sees his doctor, find out how many carbs he is limited to for a snack and for meals and how to count those carbs.

There is a book out there that can be bought on line that may help you when you shop it is called. "The Doctor's Pocket Calorie Fat & carbohydrate counter Plus 80 fast food chains and Resturants"

There may be a version out there that covers your region of the world, if not this one can help you with making the correct shopping choices to help your brother.

Type 1 diabetes is believed to be from an auto-immune response that kills the insulin producing cells in the pancreas.

Type 2 diabetes, on the other hand, is believed to be genetic and a lifestyle consequence. This means that if your uncle has it, you and your brother is more likely to get it. It also means that if you tend to be a couch potato you are more likely to get it. Neither can be gotten from drinking too much Coke or eating too much sugar.

Above all, don't neglect your own health get plenty of exercise. In fact you can help your brother's diabetes by taking walks with him if you live close enough.

I hope this helps.


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2. RE: my brother
irish66   Ireland
Posted: Oct-10-08, 05:30 AM (EST)
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This message was edited on Oct-10-08 at 05:31 AM (EST)
 
Thanks for that reply.
candarel seems to be okay for diabetecs
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?...
Yes. I'll make an appointment today to get my bloods done.
I play tennis at least once a week, go to the gym at least once a week. I don't have any kind of vehicle, so i either walk or get lifts in cars.
I would describe myself as reasonably fit for a 49 year old.
I know that this doesn't make me immune from getting diabetes,particularly as my brother has it but I presume it gives me a better fighting chance.
M




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irish66   Ireland
Posted: Oct-10-08, 08:02 AM (EST)
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then again, my brother works at a job which entails walking, lives at home with the parents, does plenty of jobs for them. So although he may not play any sports, he is active.
I also have a friend who plays tennis and is a diabetec. So i guess it's down to luck really if you don't get it.
M



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DRBain   United States
Posted: Oct-31-08, 12:42 PM (EST)
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This message was edited on Oct-31-08 at 12:43 PM (EST)
 
"then again, my brother works at a job which entails walking, lives at home with the parents, does plenty of jobs for them. So although he may not play any sports, he is active.
I also have a friend who plays tennis and is a diabetec. So i guess it's down to luck really if you don't get it."

I too worked a physically active job and worked with horses in my off time. I was never obese. In fact when I worked, I weighed steady between 180 to 185 pounds. I have two brothers that also are active and never obese they are both diabetic as well. The funny thing, I have 1 brother who is obese and sisters that are as well and none of them are diabetic.

I mention this because the American Diabetes Association says that something like 80% of diabetics are obese at the time of diagnosis.

Nice to know that my siblings and I can buck the trend.


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